Choosing and configuring effective bot protection for public servers is complex
Server operators face a non-trivial decision when selecting bot protection: commercial options like Cloudflare have many overlapping features while open-source alternatives like Anubis offer proof-of-work at lower cost. The fragmented landscape makes it hard to right-size bot blocking without over-engineering. This HN discussion surfaces the confusion around tradeoffs in the space.
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